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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.17 21:02:51 -
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Wednesday 17th at 20:00 Eve time Our Home , The Fortizar GÇ£ Event Horizon GÇ£ in Romi, hit its structure timer. P I R A T endeavourd to murder it and we murdered them right back.
Now, i have a couple of reasons for posting this here,
I feel it necessary to publicise how this has come to be. (e.i. Talk smack and point fingers) Use this as an opportunity to comment about the state of play. (Soliloquise bitterly about our small part of eve)
Yes , We have a Massive punching bag in space, It's been there for ages, It's always been vulnerable right in between EU and US prime time and yes , We fully expected it to burn sooner or later,
But I'll be Damned if itGÇÖs those Hubhumping Degenerates that take it from us.
Now , onto the finger pointing and name calling.
DevilGÇÖs and Vendetta have ,for years now, been Blue with one another. This was our only non contractual blue and was based off of mutual respect for, the work we did, our ability to do it, how we conducted ourselves both as players and as businesses, and goes back further than i've even been playing. This ends today. For a couple of reasons,
First and Foremost
Their Word and Blue is Worthless https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6931597#post6931597
In particular : trying to focus on disbanding a blue
We had a scrap with P I R A T a while back, they won , we lost some stuff, we left them be.
That's wasn't enough for them, they came for our Home.
If that's not a clear and explicit demonstration of the same motivation, The exact same motivation Vendetta used to justify jumping on Marmite, then i do not know what is.
The transparent hypocrisy of Vendetta stating that they will not stand for Marmite trying to focus on disbanding a blue While P I R A T focus on disbanding a blue they have had a longer standing agreement with by several years is frankly Damning .
Second , They have lost our respect on all counts. They are synonymous with the sort of hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankery that ensures none of us are taken seriously by the rest of the community and the exact type of bullshite ive been vocally against since forever .
Raz posted his concerns here months ago about the direction our little industry was headed and vendetta in my eyes have come to exemplify those concerns. Now i know full well there are some in the alliance that this is unfair to level at and for that i apologize.
In our little part of eve, we are only worth as much as our word , For us anyway, theirs has none.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.17 21:16:32 -
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*you're
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.17 22:04:53 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Mortlake wrote:Natural CloneKiller wrote: Your
kek Is Fybs Back??? yeah we let him out of the cage for the evening.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 11:37:34 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:
You talk utter Spin here to try to discredit our name. Lol.
Ye have done a fine job of that yerselvs, Tora is just gloating.
Yaosus wrote: a very weak leader,
You can level a lot of things at tora , and i do mean a lot , But thats not among them.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:20:03 -
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Yaosus wrote: You shoot meaningless stuff.
Has integrity dumpstered , Posts about numbers killboard stats. (@_a¦á)
being relevant to the bigger picture isnt desirable if that picture happens to be of dorian grey.
But by all means , continue chest beating, the lack of self awareness is hilarious.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:34:49 -
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Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation.
You didnt look at the battlereport did you.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:38:17 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yaosus wrote:It is funny how you are all honorable when you get your asses handed to you and how fast you forget about honor when you're on top of the situation. It's funny how quick you change the subject, when you're overwhelmed with facts.  Funnier that he's ignoring the op.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:19:17 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:rex largo wrote:Be careful.. vendetta will set your popcorn blue and then let one of their other blues eat it Want my old bucket? Bahahaha!
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:56:40 -
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Yaosus wrote:Kindergarden logic at work :) You are as cunning as a sardine too :) And ... It is the correct logic. You can try and obfuscate the point all you like but it remains simple and true.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:24:25 -
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Yaosus wrote:rex largo wrote:Yaosus wrote:rex largo wrote:Yaosus wrote: Kindergarden logic at work :) You are as cunning as a sardine too :)
you are correct a child would have a better grasp on the concepts of honor and integrity then you seem to The second Khrom or Natural or other person that I accepted as a leader will fail me, I will be on my way. That goes bothways I believe, but this is my position. So far these guys made my wallet isk fat and we're talking tens of bilions as a simple VMG member, I've had more fun than in any other eve group I've been and I have the confidence this will continue to happen. so isk IS more important to you than integrity.... thank you for proving my point I am not running for the papal chair. You play eve because honor guides you right? You turn your guns off to give your target a chance to escape, you always fight fairly... as I've seen in the video 80 vs 10 :) gtfo with your honor repertoire LoL , thinly veiled paper tigers aside, we honor our word. That is the point.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:04:38 -
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rex largo wrote: I bet you also think that vendetta wardeced us simply because ralph called them out on not supporting us?
I'm not sure but calling them hub humping station gamey neutral logi warspam wankers may have had something to do with it too.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:57:49 -
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Rias Bane wrote:Is that a request for diplomatic support or Military support? Answer the question less of the rhetoric. You can read , we were flat out refused both. He wasent even bothred to ask them why.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 19:12:39 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:rex largo wrote:"pirat doesn't need us" could it be any more clear? That is a matter of interpretation..where intent and context is lost in text as opposed to speaking with someone. It can be taken many ways..you chose to take it one way as many will see it differently. Either way..it goes back to the point of "why was there a structure in alliance". No it isnt. Its extreamy clear.
And context only adds to that clarity.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 19:21:25 -
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Rias Bane wrote:What I said was ask you leadership...what you have done is make an arbitrary interpretation of intent based on a conversation without context when written down, and with no objectivity, if You wish I could give you an interpretation of the statement regarding need to help PIRAT may indicate that Khrom's concerns were that PIRAT principally were at risk from you but is confident of their ability to handle it.
It does not matter how you spin this, we did what we said what we would do which was not intervene.
Probably should have read your bosses post before posting that
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.18 20:49:47 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Edit: Also thank you for proving ralph's point. And congrats to ralph for getting khrom to post more then a single sentence.
*tips hat*
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 11:38:05 -
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renwahh wrote:Theres me having a quiet life living in a small pocket in space and I see this  Well slap my balls and call me gi joe. Need to sign back up in devils and shoot some critters good to see you ren .. eh .. joe
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 12:20:58 -
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Yaosus wrote: The devils tried to push someone who isn't stupid at all and now they will get the full heat of their actions. I must remind you dear devils that PIRAT kept a conflict opened with marmite for 2 years and counting. They are not the entity you'd like to funk with. VMG backs PIRAT because the ivans are our friends and allies.
we were defending mate. pirat saw an opportunity , took it and lost their nose for the privilege.
Yaosus wrote: You can say whatever you want against VMG and allies, facts will count and the game is played while logged in not on the forums.
Chest beat harder, definitely going to prove yer integrity 
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 14:48:54 -
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rex largo wrote:wow.... I really thought this would have ended when your leadership came out and made you look like a dumbass..... at the same time validating everything that we had been saying.
the funniest thing is that the more you talk the less valid you become.... Yeah this is why i havent responded to him, nothing i say could make it any clearer.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:06:18 -
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I bring a neut moa, hes guaranteed not to show if you do.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:43:29 -
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Khromius wrote:
Calling bullshit. I have no memory of VMG doing anything like this. Who, pray tell, would your XXX be?
Did anyone ask you?
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.19 21:07:59 -
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http://i.imgur.com/QcH9t3J.gif
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.22 01:17:51 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Such a big silence from VMG Someone in leadership must have gotten the leash out  they may have finally twigged that chest beating and threats don't infact help in this scenario
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.23 00:23:19 -
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https://youtu.be/b97zJxKEqAk
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.24 19:05:54 -
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me, pirat (again) , EVERYONE.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.25 15:36:37 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:How's the war going? You probably had a hard week with this perma dec? If by perma dec you mean kneejerk buttan smashing followed by absolutly nothing whatsoever and then letting it lapse , id have to say not all that bad.
Pirat is pirat, you know what theyre like.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.25 20:20:34 -
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Mortlake wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Ralph, just got kicked from IKR for passing Intel to you. Raz kicked me for passing wind. I passed out the last time i tried to fc. Granted i was neck deep in a bottle of bushmills .
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.26 17:34:26 -
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because yours is the reason i hesitate to tell people "im a merc" at player gatherings.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.05.31 12:58:33 -
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Khromius smells and natural's adverts are tacky, Take that ye galavanting ejits!
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.06.04 22:08:38 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Khromius smells and natural's adverts are tacky, Take that ye galavanting ejits! Cannot argue with the truth. Lol good sport,
ye herd it here first folks , Khromius indeed smells
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.06.07 23:01:39 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Yaosus just looks like a side shot of tora...guess he's super envious, like a mega fanboi. toras got an eye piece, not an eye patch
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.06.08 07:10:56 -
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Id pay good money to make mort watch that.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.06.08 13:01:27 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Yaosus wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Yaosus just looks like a side shot of tora...guess he's super envious, like a mega fanboi. toras got an eye piece, not an eye patch As of last night, not only that he has an eyepiece but he has a new lossmail too. Courtesy of VMG. Flame on my minions! Guess tora now officially undocks more then you. God.damn.wrecked.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2017.06.16 17:05:53 -
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to clarify, im not endorsing any arguments here beyond my own , Omar's free to shite the thread up right back at you , such is the nature if a gin soaked thread like this.
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